Keith
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Post by Keith on Jun 8, 2009 22:50:16 GMT -5
I don't think she'll get a metal skeleton.
Alright, I just looked into her healing factor. I thought they had said she didn't have her skeleton laced because her healing factor wouldn't allow it. But Wiki says she escaped before they had a chance to do it.
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Post by Squeekness on Jun 8, 2009 22:58:02 GMT -5
Someone elsewhere had said they had delayed the bonding process because they wanted to wait until she was fully grown. In that case it makes sense that she escaped before they could do it.  |
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Post by coldfire22 on Jun 9, 2009 18:57:59 GMT -5
Yeah I remember it being her escaping too, but there was a comment in the comics about her age. I think they were going to do it anyway but she got out in time. They didn't care about her age or stunting it.
I just really hope all this wolverine cloning.. well.. not literally as in x23 cloning, but making everyone exactly like wolverine stops. The whole reason sabretooth and wolverine were so awesome is because they were basically the same, but with different attributes. Now they are they just making everyone wolverine. First they clone x23... then they make Daken... its so stupid. I mean really.. why would Daken have a healing factor and claws just because his father did? Mutations don't work like that. Thats like saying Cable should have optic blasts because of scott.. or why aren't collosus and magick or the older brother (forgot his name) all able to turn into metal? They have different mutations.. Daken being a mutant is fine.. that makes sense, but come on. So lame. Ok.. end rant. lol
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Post by Keith on Jun 9, 2009 19:25:49 GMT -5
I'll disagree there. I like what X-23 and Daken bring to the table. X-23 while along the lines of Wolverine obviously, but she brings a little something new to the table, she's a female, a young female and she was quite literally created and bred just for killing. So for her, it's an uphill battle for humanity.
Now Daken is a different story. Yes, he is a version of Wolverine, but we get to skip all the various technicality that make him Wolverine's child. He flat out is his child. No, step child, no foster child, no child from alternate reality. Flat out, is his child.
Now, yes the ability's is the same, should they? Probably not, but in my view, it helps make the character potential more interesting. However, I haven't followed the character, I stopped reading origins shortly after he showed up, the overall story in Origins just wasn't working enough for me. I won't be reading Wolverine once Millar leaves it, he's the reason I stuck around just a bit longer. But I do read Dark Avengers.
I definitely don't want to see Daken bonded with the metal. Similarities can be good, but clones (no pun intended) are not always good.
Not sure if I would want to see X-23 bonded with it. But I love what Kyle and Yost have done with her. So I won't be quick to judge them. They've earned my respect and admiration.
Now for that issue of X-Force coming out. I'm wondering now if we're getting a curveball. While the cover conatins obvious hints and suggestions. Covers are often full of crap. Makes me wonder if they find more clones (Unsuccessful or not).
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Post by coldfire22 on Jun 11, 2009 3:39:33 GMT -5
I was fine with X23 for the exact reasons you gave, plus she was sort of the first "clone" and like you said, being a little girl, it made/makes for some really interesting stories. I liked it in that I hoped/hope that we will get to see a sort of fatherly bond with Logan.
Enter Daken. The character being sneaky, a step up from his old man, blah blah blah is fine.. they need to do that to make him interesting. A son that was way weaker wouldn't make for a cool bad guy. I get that. Its just so forced. And the whole claws/enhances healing.. thats such bull s**t. I mean they can't think of ANYTHING better? A mutant with a bad temper, healing factor, claws, and awesome killing skills.. how many do we need??
They had a great thing with Sabretooth. I would trade Daken for Sabretooth anyday. But.. I guess its true what they say.. can't teach an old dog new tricks. lol
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Post by Squeekness on Jun 15, 2009 22:39:48 GMT -5
 X-FORCE #19 Written by CRAIG KYLE & CHRISTOPHER YOST Art & Cover by MIKE CHOI & SONIA OBACK "NOT FORGOTTEN" X-23's past catches up to her in the worst way possible, at the worst time possible...and X-Force can't find her. X-23's only hope is the one woman who's been working to take her down since issue TWO...Agent Morales. But can either of them survive against the one foe X-23 has never beaten? PLUS! The Leper Queen's secrets are revealed! And another member of Selene's 'Inner Circle' is revealed as her unspeakable plan gets one step closer to reality. Part 3 (of 4) 32 PGS./Parental Advisory ...$2.99 |
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Post by coldfire22 on Jul 7, 2009 2:10:11 GMT -5
I finally got to this one too. Loved it. Great story really. I am really interested in Hope and her story. Bishop I just feel sorry for. The guys lost it. Cable comes from further down the road so it should be clear which future should be protected, IMHO.
Apocalypse coming back is cool, but I am really disappointed that they ignore the fact that Logan was also a horsemen before.
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Post by Squeekness on Jul 7, 2009 12:07:19 GMT -5
True, I forgot about that myself, lol. So much emphasis on Warren. Of course if we all forgot about Gambit being one no one would be happier than me.  |
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Post by coldfire22 on Jul 7, 2009 22:35:08 GMT -5
Yeah the whole thing with Gambit was just odd. I still have no idea how they fixed that.
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Post by Squeekness on Jul 8, 2009 22:49:56 GMT -5
It was all done "off screen" by Sinister. What a cop out. It could have been a fascinating story.  |
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Post by Squeekness on Jul 24, 2009 22:17:58 GMT -5
For October:  X-FORCE #20 Written by CRAIG KYLE & CHRISTOPHER YOST Pencils & Cover by MIKE CHOI & SONIA OBACK *TO BE REVEALED AT SDCC* 32 PGS./Parental Advisory ...$2.99 |
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Post by Squeekness on Aug 18, 2009 12:18:13 GMT -5
For November:  X-FORCE #21 Written by CRAIG KYLE & CHRISTOPHER YOST Pencils & Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN Variant Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN NECROSHA continues here!! The resurrected dead lay siege to the X-Men's headquarters, and the fight to survive the Black Queen's vengeance begins. But while Warpath and Wolverine realize what's happening, they may be too late to stop it. Because Selene is already well on her way to achieving ultimate power half a world away. And as the rest of the X-Men fight mutants back from the dead, Wolfsbane struggles to survive a very different threat. PLUS!! The long awaited return of the VANISHER. PART TWO (of FIVE) 32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99 |
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Post by Squeekness on Sept 22, 2009 21:59:26 GMT -5
For December:  X-FORCE #22 Written by CRAIG KYLE, CHRISTOPHER YOST & DUANE SWIERCZYNSKI Art & Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN Variant Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN The unthinkable happens as NECROSHA continues! Selene's actions on Genosha have changed everything, and while the X-Men were desperate to save their species...this isn't what they had in mind. But as the siege by dead mutants continues, things get even deadlier with the arrival of Selene's very much ALIVE Inner Circle at the X-Men's headquarters. With Eli Bard in tow, WITHER, MORTIS, SENYAKA and BLINK have come for one thing, and anyone who gets in their way will die. PART THREE (of SIX) PLUS - A CABLE BACKUP STORY! 40 PGS./Parental Advisory …$3.99 X-FORCE ANNUAL #1 Written by ROBERT KIRKMAN, CRAIG KYLE & CHRISTOPHER YOST Art by JASON PEARSON & CARLO BARBERI Cover by JASON PEARSON Wolverine is sent into the heart of a Hydra base alone. His mission: like a needle in a haystack, he's tasked with bringing in one specific Hydra agent. But why? And what does this mission have to do with the dwindling mutant population and X-Force? Plus, a NECROSHA BONUS FEATURE!! The Black Queen's forces are consuming Utopia. The X-Men and X-Force fight for their lives. And amid the chaos, a squad of resurrected Acolytes have come for the former White King of the Hellfire Club...Magneto. But what they find instead is much, much worse: DEADPOOL! The Merc With a Mouth (and Loa) joins the fight in 'UNDEADPOOL.' 40 pages /Parental Advisory…..3.99 |
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Post by Squeekness on Oct 19, 2009 13:07:13 GMT -5
For January:  X-FORCE #23 Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST & CRAIG KYLE Pencils & Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN Variant Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN X-FORCE has a new mission: KILL SELENE. As Utopia burns, Wolverine and the team heads to take down the Black Queen and rescue one of their own, but they have no idea what they're in for when they arrive on the shores of Necrosha. The biggest X-Force story yet continues as Selene's Inner Circle begins to tear itself apart, and the truth about Wolfsbane is finally revealed. PART FOUR (of SIX) 32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99 |
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Post by Squeekness on Nov 17, 2009 10:09:18 GMT -5
For February:  X-FORCE #24 Written by CHRISTOPHER YOST & CRAIG KYLE Pencils & Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN Variant Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN NECROSHA PART FIVE (of SIX) Death comes to X-Force! The final battle begins as X-Force storms Necrosha to find and kill the Black Queen...but there are 16 million of her slaves between them and her. As the team's least likely member goes on a suicide mission to save Warpath, Selene achieves her heart's desire…and someone doesn't walk away from this fight. 32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99 |
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